Today we are researching the possibility of using some form of Internet over Ham Radio.
Starlink is great! It did not work in the forest – tree cover was great (can never be too much when camping).
Can we use (slow) Internet over HF radio?
What options do we have?
Protocol
- WSJT and WSPR are special digital weak signal modes developed by ham radio’s own Nobel laureate, Joe Taylor, K1JT. WSJT (Weak Signal - Joe Taylor) mode provides several modes optimized for meteor scatter, troposcatter, or EME (Earth - Moon - Earth, moonbounce) communication. (source: Weak Signal Modes)
- Email over HF with Winlink could work - “Winlink uses a worldwide HF system that can be used nearly anywhere in the world. By connecting a single sideband (SSB) radio to a computer with dedicated software and a modem interface, Winlink email messages can be sent throughout the system for endpoint delivery.”
- AX.25 Packet Radio (over HF preferably)
Radio
- The Easiest Radio for FT8 | Temporarily Offline Ham Radio claims Xiegu G106 SDR HF Transceiver to be a good machine for WSJT along with the DE-19.
- another review: An in-depth review of the Xiegu G106 QRP HF transceiver | Q R P e r (we love this photo of it)
- to summarize: “go with something more akin to the Yaesu FT-818ND (if you want to go QRP), the Yaesu FT-891, or the Icom IC-7300. All of these radios offer better overall receiver performance and inherent quality”
- Yaesu FT-818ND: The enduring Yaesu FT-817 and FT-818 series transceivers | Q R P e r
- Yaesu FT-891: Yaesu FT-891 Yaesu FT-891 HF/50MHz All Mode Mobile Transceivers | DX Engineering
- Icom IC-7300: IC-7300 | Products | Icom America.
- another review: An in-depth review of the Xiegu G106 QRP HF transceiver | Q R P e r (we love this photo of it)
Antennae
- portable HF antenna by OH8STN: Man-Portable HF Antenna strategy – Off Grid Ham Radio OH8STN
Finally
Maybe this is it: Icom IC-7300 HF Radio Portable Operations - HF Radio Email
- Icom IC-7300
- Winlink
- P4dragon DR-7400
- powersystems QRP Ranger - QRP Ranger | Portable Power Supply for QRP Radios – Store – Hardened Power Systems, USA
- and more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbqWdlNSJXE
WinLink Activity
Winlink Message Activity (Worldwide) | Feb 2024 | Mar 2024 |
---|---|---|
HF Activity | ||
Pactor 1 | 0 | 0 |
Pactor 2 | 88 | 29 |
Pactor 3 | 884 | 392 |
Pactor 4 | 3,465 | 903 |
Robust Packet | 34 | 14 |
ARDOP 200 | 0 | 0 |
ARDOP 500 | 97 | 42 |
ARDOP 1000 | 0 | 0 |
ARDOP 2000 | 67 | 35 |
VARA | 10,197 | 4,030 |
VARA 500 | 5,108 | 1,571 |
VARA 2750 | 5,966 | 2,398 |
Total Connections | 25,906 | 9,414 |
Total Messages Received | 31,396 | 9,295 |
Total Messages Sent | 37,584 | 11,081 |
Message Size Accumulation | 364,542 KB | 110,145 KB |
Average Message Size | 5,285 Bytes | 5,406 Bytes |
FM Activity | ||
ARDOP 2000 FM | 0 | 0 |
VARA FM | 11,544 | 3,757 |
VARA FM WIDE | 25,636 | 8,498 |
Packet Activity | ||
Messages Received | 8,460 | 2,729 |
Messages Sent | 10,029 | 3,133 |
APRS Gateway Activity | ||
Messages Received | 149 | 26 |
Messages Sent | 114 | 7 |
WebMail Activity | ||
Messages Received | 6,445 | 2,314 |
Messages Sent | 888 | 1,734 |
Total Message Activity | 95,065 | 30,319 |
Source: Live System Information | Winlink Global Radio Email
Protocols and their speed
Protocol | Approximate Speed (bps) |
---|---|
PACTOR I | 200 |
PACTOR II | 600 |
PACTOR III | 1800 |
PACTOR IV | 5500 |
WINMOR | 500 to 1600 |
ARDOP | 200 to 2400 |
VARA HF | 500 to 7100 (with a premium license) |
Transmission speeds (as per ChatGPT 4 – may be inaccurate)
Mode | Description | Speed (CPS) |
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FT-8 | Designed for weak signal HF/VHF digital communications; emphasizes speed over message length. | 15 CPS |
JT65 | Optimized for extremely weak signal conditions; used primarily for EME (moonbounce) and HF. | ~1 CPS |
JT9 | Similar to JT65 but with narrower bandwidth, making it suitable for LF, MF, and HF bands. | ~1 CPS |
JT4 | Intended for EME on the VHF/UHF bands with a variety of tone spacings to accommodate different needs. | ~1 CPS |
WSPR | (Weak Signal Propagation Reporter) Designed for sending and receiving low-power transmissions to test propagation paths. | ~0.14 CPS |
Q65 | Designed to enhance communication on the HF bands and for EME, with capabilities for very weak signals. | Depends on configuration |
FT4 | Faster than FT-8 and used for radio contesting, offering quick turnaround for rapid contacts. | 23 CPS |
Mode | Description | Speed (CPS) |
---|---|---|
PSK31 | A digital mode for keyboard-to-keyboard communication, known for its efficiency and low bandwidth. | ~31 CPS |
RTTY | (Radioteletype) One of the oldest data modes, using a 5-bit Baudot code, commonly used in contests. | 60-100 CPS (170 Hz shift) |
Olivia | A digital mode that is highly configurable and robust under varying conditions, with error correction. | Varies with configuration |
Contestia | Similar to Olivia, but with different configurations optimized for contesting scenarios. | Varies with configuration |
Feld Hell | A mode that uses a method called Hellschreiber, sending text as a series of vertical lines for visual decoding. | ~17 CPS |
MFSK | (Multiple Frequency Shift-Keying) Offers various configurations, known for its robustness and ability to carry images (MFSK16, MFSK32, etc.). | Varies with configuration |
Thor | A family of error-correcting modes similar to PSK but with a different waveform, offering robustness. | Varies with configuration |
Throb | A slow mode designed for weak signal work, transmitting a single tone that throbs in pitch. | ~4 CPS |
More links
- Icom IC-750 - POTA Field Report: One antenna and two transceivers at South Mountains State Park (K-2753) | Q R P e r
- https://winlink.org/sites/default/files/download/wl2k_faq_20230311.pdf
- https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/uhdynv/question_about_ft8_free_text/
- PSK31 vs JS8Call?
- JS8Call: Leave a Message! – Off Grid Ham Radio OH8STN
- FAQ | JS8Call
- JS8Call is 10-20 WPM
- PSK31’s symbol rate of 31.25 Hz was chosen because a normal typing speed of about 50 words per minute requires a bit rate of about 32 bits per second
- A more verbose ChatGPT message of 1024 characters would take over 4 minutes to transfer
What if we used pure Voice ChatGPT over FM/SSB? So this would be AI over Ham Radio?
- your home radio listens on 3.xxMhz
- you dial into this frequency and ask it a question
- chatGPT answers back
AI over HF